Boosting your e3000
State of the 3000
Feedback from 3k
By Bob Green
month we heard from Taylor Lumpkin, an Ecometry expert out of Delray
Beach Florida. He still has quite a few customers, who are 100
percent Ecometry/MPE. They have a few clients who are in the planning
stages for migration; most are swayed into Windows/SQL simply because
of perceived cost savings. He thinks that about 25 percent will
homestead past 2005.
consultants that I tried to contact were no longer in business. Their
Web sites were gone and their phone numbers were disconnected, so I
assume that they probably accepted jobs on another platform. Others
were having great difficulty finding work.
This month we
interview Chris Bartram of 3k Associates, (www.3kassociates.com, 703.569.9189)
creators of NetMail for the HP 3000 and other Internet products.
Chris operates the www.3kassociates.com Web
site, which contains lots of useful information for HP 3000 users.
Chris has been a 3000 booster for years. When I caught up with Chris,
he had this to say:
Im still consulting for one main client, which
still runs a couple of HP 3000s, though as legacy systems
(read-only). My primary focus in recent years has been with HP
OpenView. Dont know of any sites upgrading, though a few have
been buying up spare parts from various sources.
Where do you
or your customers find your news on HP 3000? The 3000 Newswire, or
Interexs HP World magazine, or the 3000-L discussion group, or
Myself, and most
the people I know still involved with the 3000 read The 3000
Newswire, and monitor the 3000-L.
of HP 3000 sites that you interact with do you consider
homesteaders, in that they have no current plans to
other than ourselves. Well keep our 3000s running until they
of your HP 3000 clients do you consider migrators, in
that they are actively seeking to move all of their applications off
percent. Though the stage of progress varies wildly. For what
its worth, I make it a point of recommending non-HP systems
(hardware or software) whenever I can. The (mis)treatment of its HP
3000 (non)customers by HP left a really foul taste, and a mistrust of
Do you think
the phenomena of keeping old 3000 systems alive in order to access
the archived history will be common?
Health service firms may be legally required to keep the
data. And in the EU I know that they require firms to keep the
systems and the software that was used to generate reports for the
government! (Whether they can actually make this stick is another
reason my main client is keeping theirs running is the seven-year
legal retention requirements, so I suspect there will be a few other
systems kept alive for the same reasons. When the data and
application are so intertwined (MACS/Ecometry in this case) you
pretty much have to have the box and application available should you
ever need to recover something... interpreting the data from extract
tapes of their databases would be an exercise in futility.
What kind of
extract format did the IBM system require from the 3000?
used Suprtool to pull out large batches of data (several gigabytes
per extract) from the MACS system, then tard them to tape (tar
is the Posix/Unix utility to archive a set of files). All came out of
the 3000 easily enough. The Unix systems (AIX and some intermediate
Sun systems) had trouble with the extract files being too large (some
2Gb per file limitations on some of the OSes) and we ended up having
to split the large extracts up (on the 3000) and re-tar them for the
chose DLT tapes for transfer because even FTPing the data over
our 100Gb backbone was taking days per file. DLT7000 has the fastest
media the systems had in common. [Note: it still took them several
days to load those extract files into their systems.]
replacement system was a custom-developed application written by IBM
for my client. I believe they spent about $25M on that one: a mixture
of AS400s, AIX systems, and (many) Wintel systems. Siebel software
was included in the mix, and some other commercial off the shelf
components, tied together with IBMs WebSphere and MQSeries
Chris, we try
to keep the 3000 flame alight. Thanks for all your efforts over the
see 3kassociates.com dropping out of sight
anytime soon either. My 957, 918, and 917 will be churning away (and
on the net) till they burn up. Keeping so busy on the
contracting is nice, but I do hope to make some time someday soon to
update our Web site and free offerings. Were still putting out
software updates and in fact will be consolidating a new
release this week.
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